Morality I

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I think that you are correct in saying this (that Christians assume this), but I am not sure that I make this exact assumption. I think that you are a very moral and upstanding man though you do not believe in God. What I would say is that any non-theistic thought system cannot account for morality. This does not mean that non-theists are not moral, but that there is ultimately no logical foundation for morality in non-theism. It is kind of like math. Unbelievers use math every day, just as they use morality, but the fact that they use math does not mean that they can account for the ability to use math or account for why math works. I am sure I have made this as clear as mud.

I've thought about this a lot over a period of years and still haven't come to any conclusions that I feel confident about. I don't know if I can come to conclusions that I'm confident with even. My current feelings on the issue(that could change as soon as tomorrow, or never, hehe) is that we are moral creatures simply because being so gives us a survival advantage as a species. I don't think it's any more complicated than that. So saying that it's logical to be moral is probably about as meaningful as saying that it's logical to have hair. Whether or not you could impute a logical reason to have hair doesn't change the fact that I am hairy, and would be whether or not any logic was imputed. I can't imagine any way in which humans could exist as a species without having a moral structure, simply because moral behavior is necessary to survive in a society.

So I'm pretty confident that I can't prove the logic of morality. But I know that it exists, and I'm confident there are reasons that it exists regardless of any theism or non-theism.

Unless you see my utilitarian argument as logical, hehe.

Anyway, that is all for now. I wish you well, friend.